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Simon is banned. Concentrate on the arguments. I will ban any personal attacks, any shade thrown on motivations or ad hominem of any kind.

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I will prepare a list of my favorite cigars for you.

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Ben Shapiro has surprised me. If nothing else, I thought the people at Daily Wire were buttoned up enough to see that his approach looked ridiculous and reign him in. The lack of competency from rabid pro-israel voices almost completely validates my long standing belief that there isn't a "JQ" worth answering and that it's always been a "Lib Question" where jewish last names are just associated with overachievers in the field of being leftist scum.

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The Zionist's problem, as i see it, is that they have let their pet agitators off the leash for too long and found themselves at odds with their new agenda.

I think it is reasonable to say that the main function of post WW2 liberalism was to allow for Israel to exists as a (literal) "State" of exception, the one nation for which the prohibition on ethno-nationalism doesn't hold. Universalism for thee, particularism for me.

As soon as the liberal ethos started to transfigure itself into Woke, Israel's access to the exception started to lose its theoretical exclusivity. According to the logic of Woke, there are no special occurences of human evil, there is just the opressor/opressed dynamic as a RULE and its inversion as the guiding principle.

While Zionists managed to do a good job upholding their state of exception through the legacy of the Holocaust (as something transcending mere ethnonationalism & bigotry, therefore "worse" than racism etc.), this began to clash with the internal logic of Woke, and required periodic exercises of power against those minorities (usually blacks) that dared question its "sublime" status and reduced it to just another expression of racism - these can be seen as repeated "decisions" to uphold a state of exception against the Logic of the prevailing worldview. But these decisions are obviously not free and as contradictions mount, more power needs to be expended to "shore them up".

This brings us to the problem at hand - Austrian Painter is no longer seen as Antisemite, but as Evil Racist White Man (that Jews are seen as White by most non-Whites should be obvious). His antithesis is no longer Semite, but rather a Brown Woman. Zionists gave the "Cathedral" too much freedom and are finding that the "master signifier" or sovereign slogan is no longer theirs to exclusively define. By the logic of post WW2 Liberalism, Israel tops the "progressive stack". By the logic of Woke, Brown women do. In so far as Zionists steered clear of direct confrontation with Woke and/or played within its frame, they could get away with "exceptions" because they didn't directly contradict its morality.

As it stands, it seems that Woke has garnered enough elite support - as you pointed out - that exceptions aren't as easily available to Zionism, perhaps because they no longer hold the majority portion of the throne.

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Oct 21, 2023·edited Oct 21, 2023

Israel's media campaign is pretty bad this time. Usually it is much better.

Possibly it is because: they don't give a damn right now what we think. They have an existential crisis on their hand, brought on by demographics both in Israel and Palestine.

They may be prepared to make tabula rasa in Gaza. And there is no way they could sell to western morality what they are about to do; so why even try?

I would not overestimate the chatterboxes in the West, be they pro or anti Israel now. They play no role in what is about to develop. Woke is done for in any event.

We are currently in the throes of finding a new power balance in the world. The positioning of Russia, China, Saudi, India will be important, and these discussions are not taking place within the Western media.

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I enjoy your content too much to not say this: I don't think it's wise to take sides in this conflict. Both these groups hate us and both are our enemy. The right divided over Israel and Palestina is like a sheep divide between two wolves.

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One could make the case for the opposite as well, that woke, in particular the guilt-cult boomers, are putting away with migrant-love and islamophilia in the west. Reading some of the comments on social media from left wing puppets and guiltcultists, especially in Germany, tells you that they are in deep ideological crisis. Ultimately, the survival of Israel has primate over substituting native population of Europe with (islamic) migrants

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The Zionists’ campaign contributions in the West have a real return on investment, but their execution of this war is too sloppy and absurdly duplicitous that it is astonishing even the most Machiavellian foreign elites.

As far as popcorn goes, butter, garlic salt, and Parmesan cheese is fantastic.

Great read AA, and cheers from California.

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By your model, this could be phrased as Third-Worldists gaining ground against Neocons, leading to the question what the Techno-Globalists are currently doing.

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This is why you pick a side on things like this, you don't have to join the war, or their cause.

The morality has gone out the window for the optics again.

If you see someone emotionally involved but they're fighting something which inadvertently effects your nation, you need to try to reiterate and guard their weakness, highlight the more rational minds.I

Care for Israel and their people, or not, there are actions that can be taken to help guide the general public of your nation, regardless of our media. If you don't do this, the terrorist etc will and as you can see, those not loyal to the UK are winning. Imo...

So many in your group (I like to think my group too, but I'm a nobody and an outcast.) were pro-Russia over Ukraine, supposedly for the reasons above. Yet, Russia (Putin.) would love to see the idiots of the West overrule anything that'll keep our nation secure and those who go along with this approach, to remove the GAE, are really not any different to the "woke" GAE etc.

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Thanks for this. An excellent read.

Like you I started off pretty neutral. But the more i looked into what was happening, that is, the more i read diverse sources, the more appalled I became about the treatment being meted out to the Palestinians.

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Are we seeing a Rockefeller(woke) vs Rothschild(zionist) move that has been in the works for some time play out on the Grand Chessboard, an internal power struggle within the illuminati and their 200+ year old World Revolution? Or perhaps this piece of theatre is all just another necessary dialectical shift of the overton window they contain global politics within...tying up an area of inconsistency and creating a new synthesis which will emerge reconciling zionism with woke/communism so the reset of the new new new world order can procede unimpaired.

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I've noticed this in my own country too, France. Usually, pro-Israel voices are better communicators, calmer and able to develop a clear and argued discourse, whereas pro-Palestinians easily fall into hysteria and emotional rants. But this time, it's the opposite. The pro-Israelis seem aggressive, irrational and argumentatively out of touch, while the pro-Palestinians are calm and factually more accurate in their arguments. As a neutral observer like you, it's fascinating to watch.

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I just want both teams to have fun

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In 5 years Gaza will be empty, and your popcorn long gone. Less histrionic and more cunning voices will take over and you, and the world, will forget about this gay little war in the Middle East.

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The optics of the Israeli side have been horrible. Very little self-awareness.

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