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Phil Barker's avatar

All rulers of any society have an interest in manufacturing consent because the great mass of people can see only the trees and not the forest. Therefore, on the topic of 'satisfaction with government', public opinion polls may or may not be a reliable metric. The disparity between China and the U.S. could be due to the different ways each group of elites manufacture consent within their respective populations. The major difference is that China is conspicuously a ‘one party’ system. I can imagine that people living in China are incentivized to ‘approve’ of their leaders so that Big Brother doesn’t notice them. Whereas in the U.S., the elites may or may not care about such things. They might only care in terms of how public opinion manifests into action.

But there are less cynical reasons each population is different − namely, culture. Beyond racial differences, the Chinese, much like the Soviets of old, want to outwardly project a unified, well-functioning society when compared to the ‘less historically developed’ Western liberal democracies. Chinese people are taught and expected to be “Pro-China” their entire lives. Their society is filled with positive nationalist propaganda, while the “freedom loving” Western populations are filled with ‘anti-Western’ propaganda which the elites have fostered due to their own machinations.

I say all this to further a point already made − democracy is simply a sham. Especially in post-industrial societies, the ruling class will manipulate the masses as it sees fit, to achieve its own ends. Are the Chinese satisfied with their government? Or, has the Chinese government baked a certain level of satisfaction into the cake? Alternatively, has the U.S. baked a certain level of 'dissatisfaction' into its cake? The short answer to last two is: 'yes'.

And finally, to reinforce the larger point... the difference here definitely isn't "liberalism" versus "communism" versus "fascism", etc. All these systems can essentially produce similar results when the rubber meets the road. The real variable of consequence is the elites, because they typically have both the will and the means to alter the structure if need be. I doubt Larry Fink, Bill Gates, Soros & co. ever said, "I have to achieve this goal because the forces of liberalism are acting upon me!", or "I can't do this because liberalism says I can't". The system, or the structure, is just a like a protocol or process they have to use to get from point A to point B. Over time, they certainly change it to suit them. Sometimes they just circumvent it entirely and the illusion is removed temporarily. But their ultimate destination is determined by their desire.

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Julius von Bubenberg's avatar

Most people don't care about any visions. People who expect something like this from the average consumer probably only interact with students and Internet shitposters. The majority of the population thinks of politics as they think of football. "My club good, your club bad". I don't know how this is in the Anglo-Sphere but e.g. in Switzerland the negative visions have always been the strongest. See James Schwarzenbach's Initiative or Blocher's Anti-EU campaigns, etc.

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